Tuesday, January 28, 2014

Guest Post: Please advocate TODAY for aligning JAMS and Hale bell times!


IMPORTANT!  Please advocate TODAY for the alignment of the JAMS and Nathan Hale bell times!

Background:  The Transportation Service Standards, up for School Board approval, have JAMS in bussing tier 1 (7:35 arrival time), and Nathan Hale HS in bussing tier 2 (8:25 arrival time).  Principals Montgomery (JAMS) and Hudson (Nathan Hale) endorse an alignment of the bell times for JAMS and Hale, with JAMS’ bell time 15 minutes prior to that of Hale.  There are a myriad of reasons why this would be beneficial to both schools.  For example:

1.      High school students would be able to walk their middle school-aged siblings to school.

2.      8th grade JAMS students could more easily “Walk to Hale” for advanced classes (i.e. Math, Science, Music, and World Language).

3.      It would allow for easier coordination of shared instructors between the campuses.

4.      Crossing guards/security presence can be maximized during similar times.

5.      Hale students can smoothly tutor/assistant/coach teach at JAMS.

6.      Coordinated bell times would be attractive to prospective families, and will help make JAMS a success story from the start.  This is important, since JAMS is the first new comprehensive secondary school to be opened by SPS in perhaps 50 years, and the first of four new secondary schools to be opened by SPS in the next 5 years.

With intentionally-staggered bell times and the sharing of resources between the two schools, JAMS implementation costs should be reduced, while educational equity is improved.  This is not a novel strategy.  The E-STEM K-8 program currently in the Jane Addams building has “Walk to Hale for Math,” and Nathan Hale students mentor afterschool programming for the K-8, such as Robotics. 
The pushback to aligning the bell times appears to be costs, though in looking at the Big Picture, it would seem as though any additional transportation costs would be outweighed the cost and educational benefits of coordination between JAMS and Nathan Hale. 
Bottom line:  Education, not transportation, should drive the bell times, and, the educators responsible have an intentional strategy to meet the needs of students that is best served by the 15 minute – staggered bell time approach.   

At last week’s School Board meeting, the Superintendent requested that action on the Transportation Service Standards be delayed until the February 5th School Board meeting.  The School Board directors approved of this delay.  The delay allows SPS Staff time to do more analysis.  The JAMS/Hale bell time alignment should be part of this analysis.  An updated Transportation Service Standards document should be included in the Friday Post of the School Board meeting agenda.  That leaves only a few days for prospective JAMS families to advocate for the alignment of JAMS and Hale bell times.
If you haven’t done so already, please send an email requesting that the transportation schedule for JAMS be shifted later, so that it would allow for the JAMS bell time to be 15 minutes prior to Nathan Hale’s established bell time.
The alignment of bell times is a critical first step toward establishing a long-term, mutually-beneficial educational partnership between the two school communities; one which will better serve our children, one which will help get JAMS off to a strong start – right out of the gate, and one which will reap benefits for many years to come.
Thank you!
Kim McCormick
Parent, John Rogers Elementary

Email addresses for advocacy letters (please send emails to all the addresses listed below, with the subject line of “JAMS Bell Times – Please align with Nathan Hale’s”
 
Superintendent Banda: superintendent@seattleschools.org
SPS Assistant Superintendent of Operations (Pegi McEvoy):  pmcevoy@seattleschools.org
SPS Transportation Dept:  transdept@seattleschools.org
SPS Arrival/Departure Time Feedback: arrivaltimes@seattleschools.org


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33 comments:

  1. Is this proposal coming from parents? I hesitate to endorse a plan that will allow JAMS to have an out for providing appropriate level classes at JAMS. I'm not seeing leaving campus during the day as a positive. If bell times are staggered, how do students walk to Hale and get full period classes? Also, that makes for a much later release time (3:20?), which can impact afterschool activities for many students.

    -NH


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  2. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY COMING FROM BOTH PRINCIPLES OF JAMS AND HALE!!!

    They have a collaborative vision, to create the best campus possible for the richest learning environment imaginable!

    Please, as a community, let's support our educators, and let's make sure seattle schools implements the best possible comprehensive middle school that they can, and that includes a strategic bell time.

    -Go JAMS

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  3. That's "PRINCIPALS", obviously :-)

    -go JAMS

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  4. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I'm not excited about the prospect of my middle school student taking classes with high school students.

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  5. From what I understand, the principals are primarily considering the sharing of faculty, with teachers shared between the two campuses. This would help, budget-wise, say if JAMS and Hale each contribute a portion of a teacher's position.

    JAMS is in a unique situation where it may have to offer up to 4 World Languages in order to meet the needs of the student population, in addition to offering advanced math and music. Being able to coordinate shared faculty would be key to making the budget allocations go further. There may be a few classes where it may make more sense to have students walk to Hale, but, from what I understand, this would probably be limited to 8th graders.

    A major benefit to aligning the bell times would be to support the opportunity for Hale students to mentor and coach after-school activities at JAMS. Hale has community service requirements for graduation (part of their senior project), and it would benefit both schools if the schedules were aligned to support Hale students assisting with JAMS after-school programming as part of their community service requirement. Examples of after-school activities that could be mentored by Hale students include Robotics, Yearbook, sports teams, etc...

    - KM

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  6. Re: NH's comment about after-school activities: Research has shown that teens and pre-teens do much better when they do not have to get up early. It's more important that our kids get to sleep in a bit and do better at school, than they have plenty of time after school for activities. I know my son would do much better with a later school time.
    Mom of 2

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  7. I will have 2 kids going to JAMS and I know a later start time is better for both middle and high school aged kids. The one positive I was telling my kids (one has to leave her current school just for 8th grade) was that school may start at a better time - say 8:30 or 8:15 in line with Hale. Now I hear a possible 7:35 start? That is ridiculous. Kids shouldn't be getting out of school at 2:00 - I'd rather they sleep in and get out later. My daughter's soccer practice runs 7-9 and there would be no way she'd go to bed before 10:30 anyway. There are many reasons for JAMS to start after 8:00. I can't believe the board can't figure out a way to do it.

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  8. 7:35 is the bus arrival time for JAMS in the current transportation proposal. The bell times are typically 15 min after the bus arrival time, to allow enough time for breakfast. So, as it is currently proposed, JAMS would start at about 7:50. Director Peaslee has requested an analysis of pushing all tiers ten minutes later. If she were to resubmit such an amendment then JAMS would start at 8:00 (but would still not be aligned with Hales start time, because it would be pushed later, too. From what I've heard, 3rd tier schools aren't happy about the possibility of their bell times being pushed even later.
    -KM

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    1. I have an incoming middle schooler and would love and support the later time for JAMS. However, I, in no way, can support moving the bell times 10 minutes to the detriment of 3rd tier schools, which my second child is in. School already starts way too late at 9:25 and moving the bells times 10 minutes could push the start time for 3rd tier schools to 9:50 am, which does not work for this 2 working parent family, and drastically affects our ability to do anything in the afternoon. Not to mention that much like teens not doing well in the morning, younger kids aren't doing so great late in the afternoon either.

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  9. My kids have been starting at 7:50 at Eckstein and it has worked fine for us. I do not want my daughter, who will be in 7th grade next year, taking Algebra 2 or foreign language with high school students though. The idea really bothers her as well. I do not see how students will be able to get across the street to Hale, through the school and in their seat in a 5 minute passing period.

    As someone advocating for a robotics team, I would like to see it as a competitive FLL team, not as an after school class.

    -ET

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  10. Dear KC:

    The JAMS bell time implementation is completely independent with the 10-minute-later-for-everyone bell time initiative from certain members of the Board. To me, that latter proposal is unworkable. I doubt it will fly. But I did send an email to the Board explaining how late it will make the last tier, and, it is not at all reasonable.

    I too am against pushing ALL bell times down by 10 later minutes. It just makes the bottom tier too late when you factor in bus travel time in rush hour traffic, especially when the potentially longer walks to hub stops are implemented too!

    JAMS does not have a bell time, because the school does not yet exist, so this is not a change, and, this is not going to affect other schools. This ask is an idependent ask, one that does not nor will not affect anyone else. All it will do is make JAMS a more attractive school, and, enable more student learning opportunities. Plus, it will help because JAMS is starting off in a unique situation: rising 7th and 8th graders are being taken from their schools, without any choice, and placed at JAMS. The least the District could do is make the bell time at least sensible for the campus, so that it can have a good start, and so it will serve the kids of the north NE as well as possible.

    Hale's current bell is 8:30 am. If the School Board would approve a 15 minute staggered start time, that means JAMS bell time would be 8:15 am. Again, this is not a change for JAMS, since, JAMS does not exist. What is being asked for is a rational, education-driven start time.

    The School Board has indicated they are in favor of rational bell times based on children's biorhythms. That means they want middle school and high school bell times later, in general, and, they are prepared to push staff to accomplish this goal, that is consistent with the evidence of student learning and health. So, if they want later bell times for middle schools anyway, why NOT start out JAMS on the right path to begin with? (Eckstein and Hamilton's bell times are 7:50 am).

    And, to the parent who indicated they didn't want high school and middle school students mixed and taking the same class, that is NOT the intent behind a intentional bell time for JAMS. Currently, the K8 that is in the Jane Addams building has some students who do walk to math to Hale to access advanced math courses. These students do this because they choose to, they do not have to go to Hale. They do this because it is possible, because it is available. If they were at a different K8, say, Pinehurst K8 or Salmon Bay k8, they would be able to because those schools do not happen to be next to a high school. The point is, it is an OPTION for certain students whose needs exceed the program's ability to schedule very high courses. So, no one is talking about mixed classes, that is not my understanding. Again, it is about options, about possibilities, and what works best for students.

    This is about providing the best student learning experience at JAMS, I hope you will consider, and, advocate for this for our community (FYI, the Jane Addams building currently has an 8:20 am bell time - so, operationally, what is being asked for is not a change that what the current middle schoolers in the building enjoy)

    -Go JAMS

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  11. Our concern is for classes that are part of the promised educational spectrum (Biology and Algebra 2) which are not choices, rather classes where 20 or so 8th graders might be involved in. The precedent being set is all we are concerned about. Most incoming JAMS 8th graders will have been pulled from their cohort and would appreciate being able to at least take core classes with the group of students that they know from their old middle school, rather than taking classes with high schoolers. Nevertheless, I believe that Paula is simply trying to allow for greater World Language and elective offerings by spilting FTE of teachers with this proposal. If anyone knows the logistics behind this, that would be appreciated!

    Count us as in favor of eventual flipped start times!

    Going to JAMS

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  12. You are correct that JAMS does not yet exist so there is no bell time, but the assumed bell time is the same as all other middle schools. For the students who will be transferred from Eckstein and Hamilton, this would be another change. Many families may welcome a later start, but realize it would be a change, nonetheless.

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  13. How would this play out? Hale does not have a regular bell schedule, so what does it mean to align with Hale? Will JAMS have a regular 6 period bell schedule? I share the concern about in-school access to classes that are not what I'd consider optional, but are simply part of the math or science sequence. Sending students to the high school would be a different model for delivering services to accelerated students, so I'd like to know if it's really on the table. This proposal, and its stated reasons, really just brings up more questions.

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  14. Go JAMS,

    The transportation schedule is set up so that most buses run three routes in the am and three in the pm. This change would require either moving an elementary school or two to the first tier (7:35 arrival) or running additional buses (not cost neutral.) Would you still want to do this if JAMS has to cover those costs?

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  15. Lynn,

    I think part of the frustration here is that most of the neighborhood kids being assigned to JAMS live within the walk zone, and therefore should not drive transportation costs. Many of these families are already enjoying the conveniences of close start times between JAMS and the JA K-8 (and some of these families are planning to transfer to JAMS from the K-8). That leaves APP and SpEd transportation, both of which receive extra transportation funding from the State.

    If alignment with Hale will set JAMS up in a better position to meet the needs of all its students, save on staffing costs (shared instructors), while at the same time, helping to fill the school (i.e. families with a dual assignment to Eckstein may find a later start time appealing), then any extra costs to implement aligned bell times (i.e. running additional buses) should be negligible.

    -KM

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  16. Some parents work. Before school care needs to be addressed.

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  17. Thanks, I emailed them. My spouse will too. I support similar bell times, as I will have students at nh and jams & they will be able to commute together.

    JR

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  18. As far as I know, there is not after school "care" for middle or high school students. Some schools have "zero period" (I've heard that Hale has this).

    - KM

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  19. Did others also get a reply from Sharon Carr today about JAMS start times? I got this:

    Carr, Sherry L (slcarr@seattleschools.org)
    To: bethdaranciang@msn.com

    Thank you for your email regarding our transportation standards and arrival/departure times for Fall 2014. The Board continues to work with the Superintendent to improve the proposal for this coming school year and press for a plan to implement more expansive changes including significant bell time changes for middle/high school students in a subsequent school year.

    Best,

    Sherry Carr
    School Board Director, District II
    (206) 252-0040

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    I appreciate that she replied, but it's a generic response lumping JAMS in with all the other middle and high schools. I had written using information and wording from the JAMS blog advocating for aligning JAMS and Hale start times. So I wrote back:

    Board Member Carr,

    Thank you for your response. Can I clarify a couple of things regarding my request - and that of many others:

    1) Since JAMS is starting as a new school next year, setting its start times a half hour later is not a change.

    2) Students are getting assigned to JAMS as a brand-new school, even those who are going there for their 8th grade being split from their established activities and friends at both Eckstein and Hamilton. Even with the best of planning, there are bound to be lots of unforeseen problems and losses that wouldn't happen in an established school. Also, this school will have a significantly higher percent of FRL students than other North and Northeast middle schools. Starting school later is proven to improve the academics of teenagers and these students, more than most, deserve that help.

    3) With the other things stacked against them, this new school could benefit by aligning its bell times more closely with Nathan Hale HS and both principals support this plan.

    Thank you,
    Beth Daranciang

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    I would encourage others to write back as well.

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    1. Yes, I received the exact same reply from Director Carr, in response to a request I sent on behalf of the JAMS PTSA Steering Committee, requesting the 15 minute staggered bell times. I should note that this was the only acknowledgment/reply that I received from a School Board Director to this letter from the JAMS PTSA Steering Committee.

      If you haven't done so already, please consider signing up to give public testimony at Wed's School Board meeting. I testified at the 1/22 meeting, and it is always good for the Board to see new faces.

      - KM

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  20. Once again, it is a change. It's a change for any family being reassigned to JAMS from Eckstein or Hamilton. There are two ways to align Hale and JAMS start times, one of which is to simply make Hale's start time match the 7:50 start time of most high schools and middle schools.

    The most recent posting of the transportation standards, however, has Hale and JAMS starting at different times. There is also a table of departure and arrival times that has all schools starting 10 min. later as well as moving the tiers of some K8s. I am dumbfounded that they will allow the third tier elementaries to start and end at such late times. I don't think the benefits of such a small shift for middle and high schools justify the unreasonably late start for those third tier schools. They are losing prime learning time in the morning, as well as getting home unusually late compared to other elementaries. Because of the adverse impacts for the third tier, I do not consider a 10 min shift an overall improvement.

    a parent

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  21. Good response, Beth. I hope the school board helps JAMS get started at 8:15, as both principals of JAMS and Hale have requested, as this is a unique opportunity to start things off for a brand new school on the best possible foot.

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  22. "a parent" is correct that the Monday posting of the Transportation Service Standards has JAMS in Tier 1 (now a 7:45 bus arrival time) and Hale in Tier 2 (now an 8:35 bus arrival time).

    Hale fought hard to receive its late start waiver. In my opinion, it would be inappropriate to advocate for Hale to start earlier, in order to align with JAMS.

    I was told by SPS staff that the reason why JAMS' transportation schedule could not be shifted later was because it would require additional buses, and was therefore not "cost neutral."

    There are a number of revisions in the latest posting of the Transportation Service Standards... all tiers are shifted 10 minutes later, 4 K-8s are moved out of Tier 1 to Tier 2, there has also been grandfathering for some K-8s and express buses added for other schools. With these revisions, the "savings" over this year's transportation costs went from $3.4M to $2.9M, so the revisions that have been made are apparently not "cost neutral," and add up to $500 K.

    At this point, it seems like the only way to make changes to the Transportation Service Standards for 2014-15 would be through the amendment process, where one or more School Board directors introduce an amendment calling for the change/revision, and this amendment goes to the Board for a vote. If approved by a majority of the School Board, then the amendment would be added to the Transportation Service Standards Board Action Report, which is, in turn put to a vote by the Board for their approval.

    If you feel strongly about this issue, please write to the School Board directors, and ask them to introduce an amendment to shift the JAMS transportation schedule later, so that it can be aligned with that of Hale.

    - KM

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  23. KM - what's a zero period? My kid is at NH & I've never heard of it.

    *note: there is an after school hangout building sort of between hale & the parking lot. I know some of the 7th graders from the current jams attend. Not sure, but I think it's part of the community center. This may address the issue of 'after school care'.

    JR

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    1. Hmm. I checked the Hale website, and I couldn't find anything specific about zero period, so I may be wrong about its existence. I think the place you are talking about is the Meadowbrook Teen Center.

      - KM

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  24. Thank you to everyone who wrote to the School Board and Superintendent regarding the alignment of JAMS and Nathan Hale start times. Unfortunately, the Transportation Service Standards approved at last night's board meeting included a 7:35 bus arrival time for JAMS and a 8:25 arrival time for Nathan Hale. The approved standards included revisions that were introduced late Monday, which included switching four K-8 schools from Tier 1 to Tier 2 and limited transportation grandfathering and express buses for some option schools. It is estimated that the new transportation standards will yield $2.9M savings (in the original proposal, before the revisions, the savings was estimated at $3.4M). There was no reasoning given to support the revisions, nor were the additional costs associated with the revisions itemized.

    Prior to the vote on the main action item, Sue Peters introduced an amendment which set tier arrival times back to those originally-proposed by staff (the revised standards had pushed all tiers 10 min later, but in the case of some tier 3 schools, this resulted in release times up to 20 minutes later than this year's release time). The Peters amendment passed, with only Director Peaslee voting against it, with the explanation that she was not comfortable with the early start times for high schools and middle schools (she cited the research supporting later start times for adolescents, etc...). Director Carr was absent, but gave her support of the Peters amendment in a written statement.

    Director Martin-Morris asked about the JAMS/Hale alignment, and Bob Westgard gave an explanation that I could not really follow (something about Hale's buses being only for Sped, and how they were unable to consolidate busing between Hale and JAMS), and he stated that 5 additional buses would be needed for the alignment, at a cost of $250K. This is higher than what I had been told previously (4 buses, $200K). There was no follow-up discussion, other than a question later in the discussion by Director McLaren, who asked if it could be possible to align JAMS and Hale in the future, and if the current standards could be seen as an interim step towards that process. She was told that Staff would need direction in advance in order to do the analysis.

    As it stands, all comprehensive middle schools in SPS have 7:35 bus arrival times (Tier 1). Option K-8 schools are in Tier 2 (8:25 arrival time), and all attendance area K-8s (assignment for elementary and option for middle school) are in Tier 3 (9:15 arrival time), along with a couple option K-8s.

    The complete time table may be found here: http://www.seattleschools.org/modules/groups/homepagefiles/cms/1583136/File/Departmental%20Content/school%20board/13-14%20agendas/020514agenda/20140205_Action_Report_Amendment1_Peters.pdf

    SPS staff received kudos from the Board for their work on the "mechanics" of the transportation puzzle. I don't remember hearing anything about how students were being better served by the money-saving changes (other than the discussion around the Peter's amendment and how it helped Tier 3 students by allowing them to have earlier departure times than what was proposed in the revised standards).

    Thank you to everyone who wrote in. For whatever their reasons, SPS and the Board chose not to support the alignment of JAMS and Hale start times.

    - KM

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  25. I found it interesting that staff said that they could have aligned JAMS and Hale but it would require moving roughly 3 of the 3rd tier elementary schools to the 1st tier next year. Did they even consider that option? I bet there are 3rd tier schools that would have gladly swapped tiers, if given enough time to consider it and engage their families.

    My husband added that it's a missed opportunity to do a pilot of the tier-flips that are planned for 2015. They said last night that they are building the framework for these future changes (so elementaries will evenutally be on Tier 1 and secondary schools on Tier 3). Why not start with a small pilot project with a few elementaries to see how it goes with a move to Tier 1? Once again, it seems like a short time frame for decision-making leads us to suboptimal outcomes and missed opportunities.

    Lastly, Director McLaren mentioned that they could align JAMS and Hale in future years, which would be great, but isn't a big part of the argument for the alignment that is would save resources and create synergies in JAMS' first year when enrollment is relatively low? The need for alignment is greatest NOW, right?

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    1. I have in my notes from watching the meeting last night on TV that the costs associated with aligning JAMS was $250K (the cost of 5 buses), or move 3 elementaries into Tier 1. I didn't catch if it was moving Tier 2 or Tier 3 elementaries. If anyone has the opportunity to watch tonight's rebroadcast (starts at 8 PM?, please do, and report back). If it is from Tier 3, we may have been able to find some schools willing to switch (with the proper community engagement). It would have been less-likely to find Tier 2 schools willing to switch.

      In early January, after the unveiling of the original transportation plan, I had several Jane Addams K-8 parents tell me that they were told that in order to move to Tier 2 they would have to find a Tier 2 elementary school willing to switch to Tier 1, in order to keep it cost neutral. I was asked if I thought John Rogers would be willing to move from Tier 2 to Tier 1.

      As it turned out, in the revised transportation standards, Jane Addams K-8, Salmon Bay, TOPS and Pathfinder were moved from Tier 1 to Tier 2, with no Tier 2 schools moved to Tier 1, and this revision was evidently not cost-neutral.

      In the text of the Transportation Service Standards, I remember reading something that stated that schools could request waivers to move to a different arrival/departure time, as long as they could show that such a move would be cost neutral. Perhaps this is something JAMS could explore?

      One of the most annoying things about this process is that it was a Board decision to place APP students from both the Eckstein and JAMS attendance areas at JAMS, and the majority of these students require transporation. It would have been far less-expensive, and very near cost-neutral if they had kept it as a neighborhood draw, as the vast majority of students in the JAMS feeder pattern live within the walk zone, even if Wedgwood had been included. I find it interesting that the majority of students who will be bused to JAMS, APP and SpEd students, receive additional state funding to cover their transportation, yet it is unclear to me if those "savings" were calculated into the analysis of moving JAMS from Tier 1 to Tier 2.

      There are certainly more questions about this process than there are answers. I plan to regularly send the School Board polite reminders to please direct SPS Staff to perform the analysis of JAMS/Hale transportation schedule alignment for 2015-16, as requested by Bob W. in his response to Director McLaren's inquiry, in order to perhaps avoid a similar situation next year.

      - KM

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  26. I'm curious...how do you know that the majority of APP students will require transportation? If the 2 mile radius is the mark, we would have had transportation to Hamilton but will not get transportation to JAMS. APP kids also abide by the walk zone. I figured that most kids going to JAMS, all groups, will actually be in the walk zone. If that assumption is correct, and with more and more kids going to their neighborhood schools, why isn't the cost of transportation going down? I'm clearly missing something.

    kp

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  27. During the Growth Boundaries planning, SPS staff presented data showing where APP students lived, relative to their closest middle school, as well as how many APP students there were in each of the proposed middle school attendance areas. The Eckstein attendance area had 200 - 300 APP students, compared to something like 60-ish in the JAMS attendance area (John Rogers, Sacajawea, Olympic Hills).

    Here is the new map of the JAMS attendance area, showing the walk zone:
    http://www.seattleschools.org/modules/groups/homepagefiles/cms/1583136/File/Departmental%20Content/enrollment%20planning/Maps%20Jan%202014/AAMS_2014_20140110_0609_Jane%20Addams%20MS.pdf?sessionid=5b44d32f899052ea467f9f57a5f50497

    Since all APP students living in the JAMS and Eckstein attendance areas are being assigned to JAMS, then JAMS essentially has transportation needs spanning two middle school attendance areas, though nearly all of the JAMS attendance area, and some of the Eckstein attendance area is within the walk zone.

    As far as the costs of transportation going down, that puzzles me, as well. At John Rogers, we went from 7 afternoon buses last year to 4 buses this year, so I assumed costs were going down, as well. It will be interesting to see how many buses John Rogers will have next year, with the loss of grandfathered transportation.

    - KM

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  28. Also, I should clarify... I didn't mean to portray any animosity towards APP. My frustration is directed at the Board. It was their decision, to place APP at JAMS. through approval of the DeBell/Martin-Morris amendment to the Growth Boundaries plan that dictated the relatively high cost of JAMS' transportation, yet they used this apparently high cost to justify why the JAMS and Hale bell times could not be aligned for the benefit of both schools.

    - KM

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  29. Does anyone know if they've settled on a jams start time yet?

    Jo

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